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July 31, 2006

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I am glad you jumped on the wagon, Danny...too bad Mel fell off his. (Go to AA...or Betty Ford, Mel. Take some responsibility for your actions.)

Yes, we need to protect freedom of speech and freedom of religion (even freedom FROM religion); however, another person's right to throw his fist stops where my face begins.

There are a lot of scary thoughts going around out there. Unfortunately, some of them are in the minds of people who are in a position to DO something about them. Mel is small potatoes. Let's talk about W. [Do we have to?] How many wars has he started? I don't believe he is a Jew...is he?

I agree. Such shallow thoughts must be nonetheless deep seated to come out so vociferously in such a situation. He was betraying part of his true nature, and it think that is sometimes abetted when people don't have others around them to tell them things like "no" or "that's stupid."

Hasn't Mel Gibson's PR people learned the lessons of corporate America? Americans forgive everyone if they take responsibility. We are the wimpiest people on Earth. If Mel Gibson had actually said, "Yes, I am an anti-Semite and I need to learn more about why I feel that way," he would have gotten a standing ovation on Oprah next week."

Yes, let's talk about W and his wars. I, like you, am no fan of Gibson's (I used to be, but not for a long time, and certainly not since the making of THE PASSION, which I couldn’t bring myself to see). I did find myself thinking, though, that at least, no matter how lame it is, he DOES apologize, which means even if he's insincere, he's aware of the fact that it's a good idea not to seem TOO arrogant, unlike a certain world leader in charge of a country that, as witnessed by your terrific post here, is full of some very scary people.

Wow, Danny, I've never seen you like this.

It's hard for me to actually believe that a grown person can be so ignorant. I guess I'm naive in thinking that "civilized society" or at least the society that isn't holed up in some bunker hidden in the mountains or the desert can actually say anything so ridiculous, even when drunk.

I just can't stop shaking my head over this situation...and I hope to the God of us all that he is not serious in saying his wife will not gain salvation because she isn't Catholic. If I remember correctly, the Episcopalian church AND the Church of England both permit divorce.

you go Danny. I am completely amazed at how this is all being covered up and this guy isn't sitting in the slammer for his choice of behavior.

You are WAY too nice. I was going to write a similar tirade about the total skeeviness of Mel Gibson referring to a female officer as "sugar tits", but with way less understanding and way more cursing. :) You are a bigger person than I.

It's not only FINE to write about this, it's GOOD to write about this.

YOU GO DANNY!

You quoted things in this post that Mel Gibson said to these officers that I had not seen anywhere else before! What I've seen is the "SANITIZED" version of what he said and THAT was Horrific!!! OY OY OY!

This man is truly scary because I know he represents so very many people in our coubtry who feel just as he does about Jews...(And you can change that name to GAYS, BLACKS, MUSLIMS...etc.....)

Would you please tell me where I can read the entire TRUE transcript of these ravings by this asshole????

And, BTW: The man had an Open bottle of alcohol sitting in his car....AND, he was driving almost TWICE the Speed limit allowed on that part of PCH....GIVE ME A BREAK! Plus....PLUS, he was so belligerent!
WHY HASN'T HE BEEN CHARGED??

As you said: If that had been a person of color in South Cenrtal...well you didn't say this, but I do: That person would probably be dead....(He tried to get away, too....I mean HELLO...?)

I ask again, Why hasn't this man been charged?
What is wrong with the L.A.P.D.?
They DON'T treat Celebrities differently????

Okay. I'm done, for the moment.

Thank You Danny, for jumping on the Bandwagon....WE NEED more "Danny's" to jump on this Bandwagon..

And that email/comment you spoke of is truly truly TRULY scary.

WE ARE LIVING IN NAZI GERMANY IN THE 30's and ANYONE who doesn't see that, is not asleep at the wheel.

IS ASLEEP AT THE WHELL!!!! Oy, that is what I meant to say.

They are asleep.

They are not awake.

That is what I meant to say...Forgive me.

This is exactly why it was so upsetting to me - the fact that this casualness was applied to the incident like, oh well, he got caught spouting off - it should NEVER be acceptable for such rabid anti-semitism to be interjected into the mainstream and talked about like no big deal - I am glad you wrote about it - I wrote about it - keep writing about it - we cannot FORGET - that is the whole thing we promised ourselves after the Holocaust - we cannot forget....

great post, Danny...

Mel Gibson has now made a second statement in which he makes a more specific apology and states his intention to meet with Jewish leaders to learn what he can do to make amends.

I have friends who have worked with Mr. Gibson and who have counted the experience as one of the best of their lives. They're sick at heart about this and find it very hard to understand.

There's something very scary going on in this country right now. I just read a story about a Jewish family in Delaware who were forced to move after asking that prayers during school occasions be more inclusive and less specifically "if you don't believe in Jesus you're going to hell." The result, according to the NY Times:

"Mrs. Dobrich, who is Orthodox, said that when she was a girl, Christians here had treated her faith with respectful interest. Now, she said, her son was ridiculed in school for wearing his yarmulke. She described a classmate of his drawing a picture of a pathway to heaven for everyone except “Alex the Jew.”
Mrs. Dobrich’s decision to leave her hometown and seek legal help came after a school board meeting in August 2004 on the issue of prayer. […] A homemaker active in her children’s schools, Mrs. Dobrich said she had asked the board to develop policies that would leave no one feeling excluded because of faith. People booed and rattled signs that read “Jesus Saves,” she recalled. Her son had written a short statement, but he felt so intimidated that his sister read it for him. In his statement, Alex, who was 11 then, said: “I feel bad when kids in my class call me ‘Jew boy.’ I do not want to move away from the house I have lived in forever.”
Later, another speaker turned to Mrs. Dobrich and said, according to several witnesses, “If you want people to stop calling him ‘Jew boy,’ you tell him to give his heart to Jesus.”

Immediately afterward, the Dobriches got threatening phone calls.

“We have a way of doing things here, and it’s not going to change to accommodate a very small minority,” said Kenneth R. Stevens, 41, a businessman sitting in the Georgetown Diner. “If they feel singled out, they should find another school or excuse themselves from those functions. It’s our way of life.” "

I'm really heartsick about my country right now. Mel Gibson is just one symptom of something that's really, really ugly at the heart of America which only seems to be getting worse. At least he seems to be willing to admit to his remarks, sit down and discuss them openly. Maybe this will turn out to be a good thing and open some kind of dialogue. Let's hope for that.


Excuse the long post; I understand if you feel the need to edit.

Great post, Danny. I agree with you 100%.

I have been referring people to your post here, Danny, because it's so well written and expresses everything that I feel. Many of the other commenters have touched on important points, too. When I hear people making excuses for Mel Gibson, I have to suppress some rather violent feelings and walk away from them. I wish I were as articulate as you.

I sort of feel like saying, "OK, we forgive you," because then he would go away faster and we could turn our attention to other matters.

Or we could forgive him and gently let him know that our forgiveness was purely an act of Christian charity, as we understood it.

And since we were accepting his forgiveness for slandering us, perhaps he'd accept ours for starting every war in the history of the Universe.

Or we could preempt his apology, and say, "No, no, Mel, it's **we** who should apologize to **you.** We clearly did **something** to make you mad."

Anyway.

My point is, I find it easier to put people like this in the rearview mirror once they're forgiven.

First, great blog!

Second, here are a few urls for anyone who is open to learning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocols_of_the_elders_of_zion

Well said.

Like George Carlin said, "Who wants to go to heaven if it is filled with goody goodies?" The rightous are terrible to hang out with. Even Jesus didn't hang out with them. He stuck around with us sinners. We'd only go to heaven for the weather and hell for the company.

Hi Danny:
Great post. I know my comment will be buried down here, but if you have insomnia one day and find it I wanted to let you know that I found your blog while looking for your wife. One of my dearest childhood friends and I were roommates in our early 20's when her book came out, and as ex MGM program kids, it delighted our nerdy book loving hearts while at the same time making us feel like we hadn't read enough!

As the editor of a young lifestyle magazine in Long Beach I find your blogs inspiring, especially about local history as we have so much of it here in the LBC I want to celebrate.

Much joy to you and your family!

I stumbled across your blog while I was doing some online research. I don't in any way question your anger about Gibson's comments; they were deplorable. But I think he should make reparation for what he's done; that would be more constructive than for him to be shunned, as some have suggested.

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